Anna Owen said,
My dog
got sick in Jan., loss of appetite, constantly drinking water, along with
going out to urinate, throwing up, in that course of time I know I had givin
him the new mighty dog wet food, they have new flavors, also I fed him a can
of Eukanuba, he wasn’t eating much at all, so I probably threw more
out than he ate, took him to the vet and they said probably a bug, put him
on anti-biotics, this was all in Jan. I have been feeding him Mighty Dog “new
flavors”, Sunday Mar. 18th, dog had a seizure, took him to the animal
hospital, said he was healthy, put him on anti-biotics , said he had some
blood in his urine, not seen by the naked eye, brought him home fed him mighty
dog , hr later had a seizure, fed him later that night (might dog canned)
few hrs later he had two more seizures, will not feed him mighty dog again,
I don’t care what they say I am not taking any chances, he is now on
medicine for seizures, was healthy before and now this all came out it makers
you wonder. I will feed him people food.
Sheilagh said,
Tiki Foods
looks promising, human grade meat, etc.
6 pages
down to see the cat food, another few pages past that to see the dog food.
Ellen said,
I have
registed for a teleseminar to be held the Wed, 3/28. The person who is being
interviewed is Sandra Bailey, who has a website and has written a book about
better food for your dog. I bought her book, and she really has good information.
If you are interested in the teleseminar, you have to register at www.TheNaturallyDog.com/?id=28
Her website is www.TheNaturallyHealthyDog.com and her book is “Real Dog’s Don’t Eat Kibble!”
Her website is www.TheNaturallyHealthyDog.com and her book is “Real Dog’s Don’t Eat Kibble!”
This has
really been a scary incident and hopefully so new legislation can come out
of this. How can we make the government understand that our pets are family
members and are just as important and valuable as our children.
Raven said,
I called
Fromm Family Foods to ask where they canned food is made and was shocked to
learn that they outsource to CHINA!
When I
asked why….she informed me to keep costs down.
Why would
they outsource to a country that does not have any humane animals laws? Shame
on them!
Gloria said,
Someone
was inquiring regarding kitty litter made by these companies. Any concerns
on this?
Raven said,
>>”
Merrick is not associated with Menufoods, but has had issues in the past I
was not aware of. […] ” Is there a link you can post on that?
Merrick
has a recall hum…I think last year. They were using a Kosher slaughter
house for the chicken wings. That slaughter house shipped them chix wings
with metal tags attached. To my knowledge, no animal deaths occurred, but
you may want to double check with Merrick on that.
When I
spoke with them on Friday, they assured me that they no longer used that Kosher
slaughter house.
I used
to feed Merrick, but during that recall, I looked into the Kosher slaughter
house and discovered it a horrible place to die. They have been fined many
times for their cruelty. So, I stopped using Merricks and switched to Nature’s
Variety Instinct. BUT…..I learned that NVI does have thier canned foods
made by Menu and Menu does live animal testing.
I can not
ethically support this. Which means…I again need to find another food
to feed my dogs.
Johnna said,
Raven,
I think
you answered your own question:
“Why
would they outsource to a country that does not have any humane animals laws?”
It’s
called MONEY and to some, apparently, it is more important than morals or
a conscience….SAD!!!!!
Eskie Lover said,
From what
I’ve heard they test for palatability.
Mary said,
I saw the
post re: Hills Science Diet W/D. Certain numbers have been recalled. The numbers
on on the bottom on the can and you can check here to see if they are on the
recall list.
As for
the rest of the comments I see, I agree. Why are we using Chinese wheat products
here in the USA? WE CAN DO BETTER THAN THAT! This is really scarey and my
extreme condolences to every single person and dog or cat that has been hurt
by this. This is a case of GREED, corporate GREED. We need to REVOKE NAFTA
and the WTO and take back America!
If the
Chinese eat dogs and cats, why would they care what the animals eat?
cangirl said,
I feed
Nutro and have feed it to all my animals for years. I have spoken to them
and they assured me that they have their own plant to make thier dry foods
but menu foods does make some of their wet. MY animals have been eaten the
wet and are fine. They told me that they do use more premium ingredients even
thou they are manufactured by the same plant. They have their own standards
and they recalled their food just for safety reason because they are linked
to menu foods and didn’t want to take any risk. Does anyone know of
any pets that have gotten sick by Nutro.
Rhonda said,
I will
never use any of these products be they dry or wet food again. Don’t
any of these so-called premium pet food distributors do quality control? Nutro
and Iams are definitely off of my list. I will never trust them again.
Geff said,
2 corrections:
Some Wysong canned foods are made by menu.
Also. some Royal Canin Canned Foods are made by menu.
Also. some Royal Canin Canned Foods are made by menu.
From Mub
Bay Grainary:
“Menu
has confirmed explicitly to Royal Canin that none of their products available
in the market are involved in the recall.”
”
* Wysong canned formulas are not part of the recall.
* The following cans have been made at Menu: Beef Au Jus, Chicken Au Jus, Turkey Au Jus, Duck Au Jus, Venison Au Jus, Beef Stew in Gravy and Chicken Stew in Gravy.
* Due to the way Wysong products are formulated, and the dates of manufacture, none of the Wysong formulas made by Menu are suspect or affected by the recall.
* The other Wysong canned formulas are not made by Menu.
* Some Wysong canned formulas contain wheat germ or wheat grass powder.”
* The following cans have been made at Menu: Beef Au Jus, Chicken Au Jus, Turkey Au Jus, Duck Au Jus, Venison Au Jus, Beef Stew in Gravy and Chicken Stew in Gravy.
* Due to the way Wysong products are formulated, and the dates of manufacture, none of the Wysong formulas made by Menu are suspect or affected by the recall.
* The other Wysong canned formulas are not made by Menu.
* Some Wysong canned formulas contain wheat germ or wheat grass powder.”
Traci said,
Sigh: read
ingredients–even if it seems healthy and holistic and not made by Menu
Foods:
“All
Fresh Vegetarian Dinner
A canine and feline dinner of fresh potatoes, carrots, peas, tomatoes, avocados, blueberries, and cranberries from the market place with brown rice makes a flavorful and complete dinner. A healthy choice for pets susceptible to food allergies.
A canine and feline dinner of fresh potatoes, carrots, peas, tomatoes, avocados, blueberries, and cranberries from the market place with brown rice makes a flavorful and complete dinner. A healthy choice for pets susceptible to food allergies.
GUARANTEED
ANALYSIS
CRUDE PROTEIN MIN ……….8.0%
CRUDE FIBER MAX ……….3.0%
CRUDE FAT MIN ……… 3.0%
MOISTURE MAX ……..76.0%
CRUDE PROTEIN MIN ……….8.0%
CRUDE FIBER MAX ……….3.0%
CRUDE FAT MIN ……… 3.0%
MOISTURE MAX ……..76.0%
INGREDIENTS:
WATER SUFFICIENT FOR PROCESSING, POTATOES, CARROTS, OAT GROATS, SUNFLOWER
OIL, PEAS, BROWN RICE, TOMATOES, AVOCADOS, BLUEBERRIES, CRANBERRIES, DRIED
BREWERS YEAST, TAURINE, VITAMIN a ACETATE, VITAMIN D3 SUPPLEMENT, VITAMIN
E SUPPLEMENT, ASCORBIC ACID, NIACIN SUPPLEMENT, d-CALCIUM PANTOTHENATE, RIBOFLAVIN
SUPPLEMENT, THIAMIN MONONITRATE, PYRIODOXINE HYDROCHLORIDE, VITAMIN B12, SUPPLEMENT
BIOTIN, FOLIC ACID, ZINC SULFATE, FERROUS SULFATE, MANGANESE SULFATE, COPPER
SULFATE, CALCIUM IODATED AND SODIUM SELENITE. ”
That is
from Evangers. The ingredients are for this specific dinner listed as vegetarian?
A vegetarian formula for dogs AND CATS? How ludicrous. Also what the hell
are “avacados” doing in it? Avacados are poisonous to dogs and
cats, the contain a substance called persin–trust me, look it up.
Traci said,
Anyone
have any experience with Fromm Family pet foods? As opposed to how the ingredients
look and how yummy the food looks on the website (my cats might have to fight
me fur it!). It is inconvenient for me to get, the nearest pet store carrying
it would be a perhaps annoying bus ride involving a transfer. It can be ordered
over the internet which I might do for the convenience factor.
Raw is
out for me (one commercial one that looks good, Feline Pride, is way out of
cost range for me for two cats eating 10 pds each every 20 days as described)–making
my own? Realistically I don’t even have a grinder and am not in a position
to find a couple hundred dollars at the moment to purchase the kind of tough
grinder to do the bone as well as the meat grinding although I found what
looks like a good recipe if anyone else is set up for it:
Traci said,
Just found
this
? Anyone
have any experience with them?
“Life’s
Abundance Premium Cat Food contains only fresh, natural, wholesome ingredients.
It provides 100% complete nutrition in accordance with AAFCO feeding protocols.
This premium
cat food is a high antioxidant formula and contains 5 sources of superior
protein … chicken meal, egg, chicken liver meal, fish meal and turkey
meal.
There is
no corn, wheat, dairy, by-products, artificial colors or flavors in Lifes
Abundance.
Our manufacturing
facility is a USDA certified APHIS (Animal Plant Health Inspection Service)
plant. APHIS certification allows the sale a of finished product to the International
market, including the European market, which has extremely high standards
on ingredient sources.”
also, ingredients
list:
“INGREDIENTS:
Organic Chicken, Chicken Liver, Chicken Broth, Turkey, Chicken Meal (Preserved
With Mixed Tocopherols), Shrimp, Fish Oil, Ground Agropyron Repens Grass,
Calcium Sulfate, Guar Gum, Minerals (Iron Amino Acid Chelate, Zinc Amino Acid
Chelate, Cobalt Amino Acid Chelate, Copper Amino Acid Chelate, Manganese Amino
Acid Chelate, Sodium Selenite, Potassium Iodide), Choline Chloride, Sea Salt,
Taurine, Vitamins (Vitamin E, A, D3, B12 Supplements, Thiamine Mononitrate,
Niacin, D-Calcium Pantothenate, Pyridoxine Hydrochloride, Riboflavin Supplement,
Folic Acid, Biotin), Inulin, Rosemary, L-Carnitine.
Calorie
Content (Calculated): 1,370 Kcal/Kg Or 116 Kcal/Can (3 Oz).”
Traci said,
I now see
it’s listed up top, but I found them curious about some freeze dried
chicken heart treats.
Traci said,
and now
I post again to say I am confused, this may be a different one than in the
blog list… anyway looks interesting, going back to their website.
meryl zucker said,
does anyone
know if the kirkland brand dry food thru costco is a problem? i do not see
it listed?
thanks so much meryl
thanks so much meryl
chris russo said,
First,
this is a great site. Next my 13 year old dog has been deathly ill 3 times
since Dec. and has been diagnosed with kidney failure. Same symptons as with
the Menu Foods dog food annouoncement. Only thing is the food is not yet on
the list. I know of 4 other dogs just in my local area that have had the same
issues with the same food bought from PetSmart from Dec through current. The
food is ProPlan but has not yet been reported. Where do we go to get this
escalated to warn other people??? We have spent over 2,000 in hospital bills
to try and save our dog. She has been in the hospital twice and we do not
know the final outcome yet. All of the pet owner can report the same situation.
I am so concerned that others will be suffering as well and still be feeding
their pets ProPlan. I do not think it is a coincidence that all 4, plus 3
puppies of one of the female dogs, have the exact same condition. These are
black, bloody diareahhea, kidney and liver failure, vomiting, lethargy, dehydration.
Therese said,
I received
this from Bryan Niemann, whose family owns Fromme Family Foods. He asked me
to post it for him…
Raven,
My name
is Bryan Nieman and my family owns Fromm Family Foods (my great grandmother
was Erna Fromm.) I am not sure who you spoke with in the office but our reasoning
for making our product in China was definitely NOT to cut down costs. It is
not cheaper to make our product in China. The reality is it is not possible
for us to make our product in the USA. We searched for a plant for 2 years
before we looked outside of the country.
Our canned
products are made in a human food plant which means every single ingredient
allowed in the vicinity of the plant must be certified for human consumption.
In the US only 1 plant would agree to produce our pet food in their human
food plant in the quantities that we could deal with (we are a very small
family owned company and cannot order millions of cans at a time.) We had
test runs done at that 1 plant and were not completely satisfied with the
results so we had to look outside of the country.
Our biochemist
Rich Marino (the first person ever to have pet food produced in a human food
plant- Active Life) traveled around the world to find a place that would adhere
to our standards. We finally settled on a incredible plant in China which
hand cuts all of the meats and vegetables all while wearing protective clothing,
masks, and boots to make sure everything is completely sterile. This type
of environment is non existent in the pet food plants we toured.
Sorry,
this is getting a little long winded but I wanted to make sure you heard the
straight story. We produce our own dry food at our plant in Wisconsin which
gives us complete control over quality. We wanted to make cans for years but
we will only release a product we are 100% satisfied with and the plants here
in the US were not able to live up to our quality standards.
Every time
we produce our cans in China Rich is there to supervise the operation and
to make sure all of our expectations are met. We are continually looking for
opportunities here in the USA to produce our product and down the road we
would like to have our OWN cannery, but until this is possible we will do
whatever we have to to ensure our quality standards are met.
If you
have any more questions I would be happy to answer them just send me an email
to my attention through our contact page at http://www.frommfamily.com/contact.php
. My dad is the president of the company and he puts his heart and soul into
every aspect of it. I believe this is strikingly apparent every time you open
any one of our products.
Take care!
Bryan Nieman
Fromm Family Foods
Bryan Nieman
Fromm Family Foods
Diane Huizenga said,
I have
always fed my 2 cats Iams dry food. Does anyone know if it is safe to feed
the dry food to my cats?
Jen said,
What do
you think about the ethics of Canidae and Felidae. We have been feeding Innova,
which I really did like, but I will not support a company that does business
with companies like Menu who promote animal suffering through testing.
I am so
disgusted with the whole thing. Ethics are extremely important to me and while
my cats and dog have thrived on Innova, I will “vote with my wallet”
until they can clean up their act.
Tanks Mom said,
to: Diane
Huizenga
My mom
had both Iam dry and moist (for dogs), when this recall hit. She checked the
numbers on both products, they were identical and matched the recall numbers.
In other words, although the recall currently is for moist only, with certain plant and lot #’s. Why did her bag of dry have the same exact numbers?
In other words, although the recall currently is for moist only, with certain plant and lot #’s. Why did her bag of dry have the same exact numbers?
She threw
it out! Why take chances with cross contamination?
Caninecare.org said,
I just
tried calling Newman’s and they must be using MENU FOODS as they will
not give out info. To me that is bad if any company will not give out info.
I’m going to stop using all their products and tell people on our website
not to use them. I also heard a ‘rumor’ that FROMM is manufatured
in CHINA. I would worry about that. I’m trying to find out more. At
this point it’s cooking or using something like the HONEST KITCHEN.
I Have also used BY NATURE DRY which seems OK but I want to make sure they
manufature at a human grade plant at this point. Can’t find anything
else I can trust.
Joy Turner said,
I had 2
healthy dogs and both went into acute kidney failure last week. They have
been feed Alpo gravy and beef dog food for many years. The chance of both
going down at the same time with “acute” kidney failure that came
on suddenly is almost impossible. I have tried to contact Alpo but have not
been successful. My vet really didn’t even want to report this to the
proper officials. It is frightening to think how many other dogs are sick
or dead because of this. I am now $4000 dollars poorer and have lost 1 dog
and the other is sick. Please Help!
Caninecare.org said,
What is
terrible is that so many people have never known what crap is in most commercial
foods. I hope something good comes out of this tragedy in that people know
there are choices and there are human grade products though now you have to
make sure they are all produced in the USA and manufactured by a company better
than MENU! I’m also sick of VETS pushing that crap IAMS; HILLS and EUKANUBA
_ they all must get kickbacks or are invested in the company. People sadly
cannot believe most vets. Look how they push vaccines which are proven now
to be bad! They make all their money with yearly shots that aren’t needed
(see vaccine info on caninecare.org or just Google “dangers of yearly
pet vaccinations’. You can’t trust them. They are all out to make
money.
Glenda said,
Thank you!!
I do not want any products manufactured through Menu Foods. I just don’t
trust them.
Caninecare.org said,
Since people
are taking this time to learn about pet foods, please make a note to read
labels- do not use product- treats and food- (many organics included) that
have: BHA, BHT, ethoxyquin & propylene glycol, corn syrups, sugar; or
menadione aka dimethylprimidinol sulfate READ YOUR LABELS! REMEMBER NATURAL
or ORGANIC doesn’t mean it’s HUMAN GRADE or even HEALTHY for your
cat or dog! Some have ‘organic sugar/organic corn syrup’ as an
ingredient- NEVER use ANY product with CORN SYRUP or SUGAR as an ingredient-
even if organic. For more google these products or visit www.caninecare.org
- specific info listed on this site.
Atomische said,
To me,
the details of what is ON the list and what IS NOT on the list is pretty irrelevant.
The issue is that what we thought were reputable brands turned out to be relabeled
product from a shoddy company.
Although
none of the Science Diet product in my cupboard was on the list — it
all gets thrown out, because now it’s obvious that the “Science”
is actually marketing science, not food science.