Evy said,
Corn gluten
meal is a high protein/low ash source. While it is highly digestible it does
not contribute to the essential amino acid profile that the protein in meat
provides.
Over 80%
of the protein in KumpiKat is from meat with only a 5.5% ash content. That
chicken without the bone part is ’spensive!!
Lest this
turn into who does what and why about their pet food company (although sorry,
I will defend myself) please let’s keep our eyes on what is happening.
I propose that anyone from a pet food company posts facts, not opinions.
Two weeks
ago we all felt our hearts drop into our guts when we heard the news and the
people at howl911.com and petsitusa.com and itchmo.com have work long hard
hours to give us the news we couldn’t find anywhere else without having
to do a tremendous amount of research.
Right now,
there are pet owners who are parents to FurAngels struggling for their lives
- I know I’m in touch with an elderly woman locally. It breaks my heart
when I call her and she keeps saying she hopes her ‘Angel’ (11
year old cat) doesn’t die. She has a caregiver who sometimes has to
tell me she is having a ‘bad pain day’ when I call to see how
she is doing. The stress of Angel’s illness (75% damage to the kidneys)
is hard for her to bear.
And there
are countless others worried and there are people who just don’t even
have a clue. We still need to keep letting people we know about the pandemic
numbers petconnection.com have reported and even the spokesperson for the
Veterinarian Information Network has indicated as well. I have been amazed
at the number of ‘pet lovers’ who are only following main stream
media that have no sense of urgency.
Keep talking
to friends. Write to the congressmen who began the inquiry and thank them.
Write to whatever media outlets you feel appropriate and see if our collective
voices will turn their heads. It might not. But there are proactive steps
we can take now in who we write to and share with.
Petsitusa
Howl911
Petconnection
Itchmo
Howl911
Petconnection
Itchmo
THANK YOU!!!!!!
At this
point I am becoming personally uncomfortable with the way posts that from
individual companies are leaning and will refrain from posting.
For a basic
read about the industry please check out itchmo’s blog at:
If anyone
has any questions about the dynamics of dog or cat food, please feel free
to call me at 303.699.8562. Evening and weekend calls are cool 
Mary Kelley said,
Peta is
currently working to have Iams dry food recalled due to reports of more dog
and cat deaths. I have read at least 2 posts here by people still using Iams
dry food. I would not be using anything by Iams! Have your animals checked
now!
Diane said,
I have
a bag of Iams I haven’t opened yet and Peta keeps going on about Iams
so am thinking of tossing it. But the ingredients don’t even list Wheat
Gluten. I had a bag of Goodlife by Mars and that had Wheat Gluten listed so
I tossed that wanting to stay away from wheat gluten. Now I have some Purina
and they only have corn gluten in theirs. Have been using Science Diet dry
this whole time and it was fine, also some Purina Indoor the other cat likes.
(Which have corn gluten)
I wish
they would say what company got that crappy wheat gluten from China that could
be in dry food.
Geff said,
I fully
agree with the above post, as does my cat’s veteranarian. I would consider
using ANY Iam’s product at this time insane.
Marci Rosenblum said,
All American
Pet Company, Inc., makers of Bow Wow Breakfast Cereal for Dogs, wants you
to know this is an extremely unfortunate situation for the Pet Food industry.
Everyone in this industry, especially All American Pet Company, Inc. (Who
is NOT AFFECTED by this recall), care a great deal about your pet’s safety
and well being.
Please
rest assured that our products, CHOMPIONS™, BARKFAST SQUARES™, and CHEWA-BUNGA™,
are 100% WHEAT GLUTEN FREE and pose no threat whatsoever to your dog. We will
always pledge to you to produce a well balanced and nutritional meal for your
“four-legged family member.”
Please
feel free to contact us at: comments@bowwowbreakfast.com
with any questions you may have regarding our brands.
Marci Rosenblum
Vice President, Marketing and Public Relations
All American Pet Company Inc.
Vice President, Marketing and Public Relations
All American Pet Company Inc.
Lori said,
The following
information was just posted on the Hill’s website:
Hills Pet
Nutrition, Inc. Voluntarily Recalls Single Product, Prescription Diet™ m/d™
Feline Dry Food, Only Product Containing Wheat Gluten
Pat Dunlap said,
PETA was
right… check this out
FDA Targets
Chemical in Iams Pet Food
Associated Press
Associated Press
“The
Food and Drug Administration said Thursday it has issued a warning letter
to Iams Co. that says some of its diet pet foods contain an unapproved substance.
Eukanuba Veterinary Diets Optimum Weight Control/Canine dry, Optimum Weight
Control/Feline dry, Restricted-Calorie/Canine dry and canned, and Restricted-Calorie/Feline
dry and canned contain chromium tripicolinate, which is not an approved food
supplement, the FDA said.”
Back to Basics said,
Pat Dunlap,
Our manufacturer
is Chenango Valley Pet Foods in Sherburne, NY. About an hour east of Syracuse,
NY where our company headquarters is.
I’m
pulling this exact number out of the air, but I’d say probably 90% of
pet foods do not use their own manufacturer. Manufacturers are very large
machinery/storage complexes that are responsible for receiving, preparing,
cooking, cutting and bagging all of the ingredients that go into a pet food.
One fo
the first tasks for someone looking to create a pet food is to find a manufacturer
that can handle their request/idea for a formula. Unless you are a near billionaire,
considering making your own manufacturing plant is near impossible.
We are
not middlemen, we are the company that created the formula from the first
ingredient to the last, chose the source of every one of those ingredients
(this is optional, many pet foods use existing ingredients that already come
into that plant for other foods), and hired nutritional analysts to make our
idea work. We pay for every drop that goes into our food and we pay the manufacturer
for their mechanical services to create every kibble.
In a very real sense, the manufacturers are just extended employees of ours.
In a very real sense, the manufacturers are just extended employees of ours.
In regards
to the regulation and cleaning of the machinery: It is regulated by the USDA
and regularly inspected by both that department and by ourselves. The machinery
and all parts involved on the line are stopped and sterilized before every
single production run, this is common practice within the industry to the
best of my knowledge, and if there are manufacturers that do not abide by
these regulations, I can only guess that they are not USDA certified facilities.
I will
contact my colleague Adam about the bag specifications, you can also email
him directly with any packaging inquiries at adam@beowulfs.com
I hope
this helps you understand the process better, feel free to email me at mikew@beowulfs.com
with any more questions about formulation and/or production.
Jill said,
I have
3 dogs, 2 are Goldens and have severe food allergies as well as other allergies
and I findmyself needing to switch their food on a regular basis. My vet suggested
I try TimberWolf Organics Venison & Lamb, so I did, then with this recall,
I contacted them to see where they processed their food and they sent me a
standard form letter, stating that it’s proprietary in nature and they
can’t devuldge that information. I immediatley stopped feeding my dogs
that food, and e-mailed them back and said if you have nothing to hide then
hide nothing, if you can’t tell me where you process your food, I will
have no choice but to stop buying your product, and tell everyone I know about
your response and hit you in your pocket. They also refused to give me the
money back for the food.
Mark said,
I’m
not sure what this is all about but the definition of Meat and Bone Meal in
the AAFCO manual is on page 259 ingredient #9.41. The man below shows a Bone
Meal definition and a Meat Meal definition neither of which is Meat and Bone
Meal.
The definition
for Meat and Bone Meal is much more similar to that of Meat Meal as described
below. The primary difference is that there is a limited amount of bone in
Meat and Bone Meal. The bone is where the natural calcium and phosphorous
necessary for all phases of life in dogs comes from.
If you
used only Meat Meal you would have to add more calcium and phosphorous from
inorganic sources to meet the nutrient requirements of dogs to the formula.
Bone is a good natural source of calcium, phosphorous and magnesium. It is
ground and steam sanitized so it is more digestible and safe to eat without
the danger of bacteria or bone splinters which can be a problem in raw unground
bone which can be fed to dogs for mineral intake.
The beet
pulp is a fiber picked specifically for the very trait of being very absorbant
to water and basically neutral as a nutrient source. Of course it swells up
when it absorbs water. That is the very reason it is included as a natural
source of fiber in the food. It holds moisture at the proper level in the
ingesta of the digestive tract for normal systolic motion through the digestive
system. It is only included in the formulas at the appropriate level for each
products purpose.
And to
make matters clear, the level included in most dog foods of beet pulp is usually
around 2% of the total formula. It doesn’t take much beet pulp to do
a wonderful and natural job of maintaining the correct level of fiber and
moisture in the digestive tract.
Dog foods
without beet pulp or other added fiber can cause constipation and or intestinal
damage over a period of time.
Lots of
people have misguided but well meaning opinions about subjects they are partially
familiar with. Opinions that are incorrect like this fellows can be dangerous
and not helpful to the overall well being of dogs.
Leave nutrition
to someone who is a nutritionist. It is a science not based on incorrect opinions.
Nutritionist
for Kumpi Pet Foods
Mary Kelley said,
Here is
another news link about the Iams dry food Peta is trying to have recalled:
Back to Basics said,
Melamine
Contamination News:
The FDA
just reported that the contaminated wheat gluten from China has not been ruled
out of any products containing the ingredient, INCLUDING HUMAN FOODS! Though
they have no indication that it has ended up there or even that they are 100%
sure that the source is indeed wheat gluten.
This is
scary stuff and I don’t understand it… when I send a container
of food overseas, they test it down to near the DNA level (not kidding) and
if ANYTHING is outside of our specifications, the conatiner and contents are
sent back or destroyed. How could this ingredient even get into the USA? Especially
in light of our supposedly “tightened” import regulations after
9/11….
A quick
piece of advice that we’ve been saying for over a decade now and holds
true now more than ever: stay AWAY from ingredients that end in -Gluten, -Bran,
-Flour, -Hull, -Husk, and -Pulp… we’ve always said to shy away
from them because they are worthless fillers, but it seems maybe they are
also less regulated than whole food ingredients and less regulation in a world
market is very dangerous.
Peace
Lois Kimball said,
I have
finally read the list at the beginning of this post after having abandoned
all commercially produced (ultra premium natural-bullshit) foods (except for
Felidae) on the day this story first broke.
I have
repeatedly phoned and emailed many companies asking specifically where their
foods are manufactured. They have repeatedly given me different answers than
they gave you. And, no thank you, a $10 coupon isn’t going to make things
okay.
There is
no bottom to this revolting, disgusting, slimy pit of deception and lies.
And it is a fulltime job just keeping up with it all.
Back to Basics said,
I recited
the definitions of those ingredients exactly as AAFCO does.
I gave facts on beet pulp and nothing was done to disprove it.
The facts I divulge have always been stated as such.
The opinions I share have always been stated as such.
I gave facts on beet pulp and nothing was done to disprove it.
The facts I divulge have always been stated as such.
The opinions I share have always been stated as such.
I have
nothing to hide. I am proud of what I speak.
I am also happy to listen and and never above learning.
Prove to me that meat and bone meal and beet pulp are not as bad as I think they are and I will never speak ill of them again.
I am also happy to listen and and never above learning.
Prove to me that meat and bone meal and beet pulp are not as bad as I think they are and I will never speak ill of them again.
Thank you.
Ang said,
Back to
Basics folks.
You gave
the definitions of meat meal, then bone meal. Not meat and bone meal. Read
what the nutritionist at Kumpi said. He said that meat and bone meal is not
the same as quoting just meat meal and then bone meal. Makes sense to me.
All you need to do is read what got posted about what a NUTRITIONIST said.
Are you
a nutritionist because if you aren’t I’m tending to think the
guy from Kumpi said enough to teach me and I’m just a consumer. Maybe
you should give her nutritionist a phone call and stop spreading stuff about
things unless you know for sure. I think what he posted about everything is
enough to prove that that stuff isn’t as bad as you keep saying.
Linda said,
Have any
of the food manufactured by the Mars Company been recalled? That includes….Cesar,
Pedigree Dry. Also has anyone heard anything about a recall on pig ears and
pig strip treats?
Diane said,
Well, so
Hill’s got some of the bad wheat gluten for a prescription diet food
and recalled it. I’m glad they found out about it. I’m finishing
up a bag of Hill’s cat food but its not prescription and its working
fine. Its one for older cats. My 8-1/2 yr. old cat likes Science Diet, Iams
and Eukanuba and my real young cat likes the supermarket foods. She actually
has a shinier coat, but maybe because of her younger age. But I don’t
know what I’m going to buy next. I have some new Fancy Feast and Purina
which seems to be fine. At this point I just want something that is not poisonous
and then I’ll look into things at the pet food store.
My previous
20 yr. old cat had eaten mostly supermarket dry and canned foods and then
got a cat bite and got feline aids and bad kidneys and was put on Hill’s
CD which he liked okay. He did live a long time for having HIV. Then the other
stray cat I got lived to about 17 and she seemed to like eating the CD too
because its hard to separate foods even though I put out other foods. Both
of them actually got mouth cancer but their kidneys were pretty bad. But I
guess they did live pretty long anyway.
Diane said,
Well I
don’t think that Mars recalled anything but I had gotten their new Goodlife
food for cats and it had wheat gluten in it so I threw it out. I bet it was
perfectly fine because they got it from another source. Its just so hard to
know right now. Also they make Sheba canned cat food and I had a few for the
cats which was okay. Now Pedigree I heard something about being recalled in
Asia.